Thank you bigjulie, for coming to my defence. it might have been a rubbish joke, but I thought people would realise it was meant to be a joke.

I am a newcomer to this forum and I must say I have been very surprised by the vitriol and poor sense of 'friendly disagreement' that i read here. it seems unless you are one of the select few (see the thread about hello day in the beyond se23 bit), then your views are not welcome.