"I have it! The way to stop people making the illegal turn off Honor Oak Road into Manor Mount is simple. Make the phase of the traffic lights turning out of Honor Oak Road onto Lordship Lane longer than just two milliseconds, thereby eliminating the huge queue up the hill and, at a stroke, the temptation to illegally run down Manor Mount. That's the real root cause of the problem that should be tackled, rather than the symptoms. "


Bravo! Absolutely right.

I use that road a lot as I live just up the hill from there, you can have 30 cars or more backed up, and sometimes you get 1 or 2 cars getting away from the lights. At the very best 4/5 cars, but that's pushing it.

Also because whenever it is busy the junction gets blocked so someone turning right will just sit at a green light (all 2 seconds of it) not going anywhere waiting for it to clear. Intensely frustrating if you want to turn left. Traffic off that hill is insane at the moment, so I cannot blame anyone who chooses to ignore that completely pointless one way road.

Too bad if that upsets some saddo who has nothing better to do than rush around scribbling down number plates getting all morally superior in defence of a bad bit of road planning.