I'm afraid discussion wasn't really what I had in mind Brian- I'm not that generous. I'm not trying to legitimise them just because they snatched a few seats here and there. I just think their views won't and don't hold water or stand up to argument on say Question Time so the sooner more people realise this the better. Undeniably a lot of people will suffer in between but I think the exposure can only wittle away at their power base. Of course I could be wrong but thats my theory anyway.