ummango - talking of tarring people with the same brush, SE23.com is not the EDF and I haven't seen vitriol and malice directed at the TLERA here, only reasoned, if sometimes also heated, argument. I don't know what has been said on the EDF as I find the need to scrub my eyeballs with carbolic soap after looking at that website.

I have no personal interest in Piplings or TLERA, I don't live in that part of SE23, and I can only comment on what I have seen on this thread. There are two separate issues - the thread started as an objection to Piplings, but what it is about now is the actions of the TLERA. They are not the same issue. You could object, in theory, to both.

As an objective outsider, I have read the posts by those supporting the TLERA and most (not all) are illogical, unreasoned and sometimes plain barmy. They are also hypocritical - any harm done TO Piplings can only be petty and easily dismissed, but any harm done BY them justifies any means, foul or fair, to close their business. That's what I get from the supporters of the TLERA. Not doing yourselves many favours, chaps.