No, it would be wonderful to have places like that that sell really excellent ckaes and good coffee - why would it be too upmarket? I am fed up with places opening up that sell just-about-ok things. OK there are some wonderful, really unusual shops and cafes in south east London, but so many new places that start up are disappointing - they act as if they don't want to try to hard cos this is south london and there's no point in bothering because we won't appreciate it.