Snazy - you really hate pedestrians dont you?

re Honour Oak Rd: I was thinking of the straight narrow stretch by Tyson Rd. It has a ramp further up so is a good comparison.
Pavement width is some 3 foot here, so pedestrians cling to the wall as traffic uses the full width of the road at unsafe speeds.
Conclusion: traffic will not self regulate on narrow roads.

re unreasonable demands: There is a safe crossing point. It is being removed. Getting to the route cause of why has been a long journey but I think we are there thanks to MH's latest input. No money.

re North ramp:
The only doubt on the ramp's location imo is caused by uncertainty whether the platform 2 exit is to close.
You would like to think MH will get a straight answer from tfl.
Again I think it is well positioned as things stand.

re: general car car car (yawn): This particular area is a very busy pedestrian route as pointed out repeatedly. It needs a crossing. MH agrees with this.

re: islands: It is interesting that the old plastic keep left boxes are being replaced by flat metal signs with a plastic snap point at the base. Presumably because they are repeatedly hit.
They used to raise the height of the curb for repeatedly hit islands, but presumably drivers persisted and killed themselves. Which is harsh when the islands are mostly unoccupied.
~10 reckless lives lost vs ~1 innocent pedestrian life per 20yrs say?
That is a hard choice, but Snazy, you have hardened my position.
Build those curbs up.

re recommended crossing. MH has not recommended one! His choice was ruled out, so we are in limbo. I guess when the flats are occupied, then their residents association can put pressure on the council as well to reinstate the crossing. And (surely?) we all hope no-one is hurt in the mean time.

Previously lost crossing islands on Perry Vale can wait - this one is very important, and I am glad that SE23.com has given me the opportunity to raise awareness. Thanks to Mick for his input - he neednt have answered any question after all. And thanks to Snazy for helping extract the details, showing a keen interest and a different viewpoint.

Now we know it was not a planning decision but a funding problem, petitioning the local councillor seems the next logical step.
If that councillor is you Snazy, then so be it. Expect my email shortly and we can go over it all again.