The t-lights at the bottom of HOR seem to be the same. At various times of the day traffic is backed up as far as Manor Mount and sometimes even higher. A year ago I was told by TfL that the reason for the short 'Green' for HOR is that they wish to discourage traffic from using HOR! The reason for any blockage in London Road in the London direction is the length of 'Green' vehicles get when coming down Sydenham Rise, turn right into London Road and then to speed up HOR. The road pacifiers, speed bumps or whatever, do not do their job, unless one is driving a low slung car, like a Ferrari. The laden or unladen 8-wheelers just bounce from one bump to another before or after depositing part of their load after they turn Left at the bottom of HOR - but that's another story, all to do with the new temporary lights in Forest Hill Road, near thye Doctors' Surgery.