I thought my original question quite reasonable.

Anotherjohn has given his vision of a pedestrian filled, car free utopia and to be fair, the pictures look very similar to the pedestrian filled car free utopia on the pdf front cover of these proposed works.

I know details count for nothing these days, but I do not follow how changing the pavement material, lowering the curb, installing non-crossing crossings, etc achieve this goal. We had some of that on Perry Vale and all it achieved was creating a good run for the quadbike gangs.

No-one has managed to real off 3 real benefits, off the top of their heads, and all we have is a rather terse suggestion people read through 10 pages of posts to find all the pds including michael's leaked updates. No-one is going to do that.

Presumably some earlier response to Red also applies to me, and I am not going to dereference that pointer in 10 pages of posts either.
I'm a positive person - I'll take it as a compliment.