....and just to add to what Jeff has said.. I agree with you Roz that we have some great architecture in SE23, that is or will never be in dispute, thanks to forward thinking people like Ted Christmas, but the common denominator in all of the examples that so far have been put forward bar a few that Michael suggested are from another era. They come from a time when builders and developers were craftsmen who were interested not just in a profit as we have today but in design, technique and detail. It's not cost effective for a developer or builder today to put the time and energy into creating what they did then so what we time and time again end up with is a milky poor pastiche of a cousin of was done then. With all of the modern methods of construction we have today, new materials and great architects we are missing a real opportunity to make a mark on Forest Hill that in 100 years time will be talked about in the way that you speak about properties from 100 years ago. I offered a challenge to those on the thread to give example of great privately funded modern architecture in SE23 and so far nobody has really taken up the challenge. To be fair since that challenge I have found a few more to add to the few that Michael put forward , but after a bit of research I found that they were well out numbered by bland mediocre boxes that have been built quickly,cheaply and with only enough regard to detail that would have allowed them to get past planning. If he knew poor Ted Christmas would be turning in his grave. Let me suggest one last thing..on google..type in Modern House Melbourne and then look at the image page to see an array of modern buildings, some you will like others you might not but you can't argue that their architecture is stuck in the past! Let's hope that in 100 years time residents of SE23 are not still talking about how great the architecture was 200 years ago!